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PostSubject: Mr & Mrs Church Bench   Mr & Mrs Church Bench Icon_minitimeThu Mar 01, 2007 9:09 pm

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Churches Benches, almost look like they could be talking??
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PostSubject: Re: Mr & Mrs Church Bench   Mr & Mrs Church Bench Icon_minitimeThu Mar 01, 2007 9:50 pm

I like this image...they do look like their discussing whatever it is that's beyond the border. I did play a little, it seemed quite flat:

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I have a couple of questions...what is your editing software? And what steps do you take for the conversion?
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PostSubject: Re: Mr & Mrs Church Bench   Mr & Mrs Church Bench Icon_minitimeThu Mar 01, 2007 10:00 pm

Hi

I keep havig a problem with this...

I am using paint shop pro X

I used the greyscale option, I think I am doing something wrong.

I also have photoshop 7 but I have not been using that much lately.

I liked my image but not the flatness, you have fifted it a lot and it looks nice now.

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PostSubject: Re: Mr & Mrs Church Bench   Mr & Mrs Church Bench Icon_minitimeThu Mar 01, 2007 10:34 pm

I use PS7 Jono and it is so much easier to convert to BW with it than with the greyscale option on PSP.

Open your image then make sure it is 8 bit.

Then goto IMAGE>ADJUSTMENTS>CHANNEL MIXER.

When the box appears click the monochrome box in the bottom left and it will convert to BW.

You can use the sliders to adjust the tonal range.

Just make sure that all the totals add up to around +100. :)
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PostSubject: Re: Mr & Mrs Church Bench   Mr & Mrs Church Bench Icon_minitimeThu Mar 01, 2007 10:37 pm

I'm not sure what Paint Shop does and doesn't have but, there are several different ways of turning an image B/W...but not all methods give you enough control over the process. Applying the better techniques lets you produce better-quility output, with fewer burned-out highlights with richer tones.

I want to share with you what I learned:

Lazy Method 1: Converting the image to grayscale mode.

Lazy Method 2: Desaturating the image

Lab Mode - a) Select image>Mode>Lab Color b) Select the Channels Palette>Click on "a" and drag it to the palette trash. This should leave you with a finer-quality b/w image.

Channel Mixer - a) Select Layer>Adjustments Layer>Channel Mixer b) Check the Monochrome Output box in the lower left hand corner of the dialog box and hit OK. c)now experiment with moving the other channels' sliders until you achieve the look your seeking.

I hope you are able to some how convert this info to Paint Shop. I think we all start out using the greyscale option...until we discover we are unsatisfied with the results and start looking for other ways to get the look we want.

Please, let me know if you need more clarification...

T.


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Apparently...Stewart and I were typing at the same time! Mr & Mrs Church Bench 692913
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Bingo! Thats easier.....thanks all

no excuse now
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Looks much better!
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PostSubject: Re: Mr & Mrs Church Bench   Mr & Mrs Church Bench Icon_minitimeFri Mar 02, 2007 2:55 am

Paint Shop Pro has a direct equivalent to the 'levels' tool in Photoshop, and that's probably what you really need to be using with your images in general, just to give them a lift from that 'average' tone the camera leaves them with...

Another option, if PSP will support it, is the Virtual Photographer Plugin from Optikverve labs - it's a freebie, and it will give you a number of really neat B&W conversions, real time preview of each effect, and it's just as easy as the 'lazy' way of converting...

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PostSubject: Re: Mr & Mrs Church Bench   Mr & Mrs Church Bench Icon_minitimeFri Mar 02, 2007 3:05 am

let me second Stuart on the Virtual Photographer...I use it often!! It's easy to learn and gives you many options!

Here's the link:

http://www.optikvervelabs.com/
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Thanks for the info I will take a look

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Virtual Photographer.
Very intereting...good tip
A quick play got this, with a bit more practice.....
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PostSubject: Re: Mr & Mrs Church Bench   Mr & Mrs Church Bench Icon_minitimeSat Mar 03, 2007 9:28 pm

Isn't Virtual Photographer fun!!

This is cool conversion...very spooky and ominous!!
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Great fun, looks I need to clean my sensor too...thats less fun!!
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PostSubject: Re: Mr & Mrs Church Bench   Mr & Mrs Church Bench Icon_minitimeSun Mar 04, 2007 12:43 am

Where's that church Jono?
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PostSubject: Re: Mr & Mrs Church Bench   Mr & Mrs Church Bench Icon_minitimeSun Mar 04, 2007 12:50 am

back of the hill near boarhunt, its quite small.
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PostSubject: Re: Mr & Mrs Church Bench   Mr & Mrs Church Bench Icon_minitimeSun Mar 04, 2007 12:55 am

Cheers Jono, taking pics of Churches is one of my fav things to do with my camera. :)
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PostSubject: Re: Mr & Mrs Church Bench   Mr & Mrs Church Bench Icon_minitimeSun Mar 04, 2007 7:29 am

Bad Bad Man wrote:
Where's that church Jono?

Are you sure the walls won't fall in if you go, Stewart?? :)
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Stewart..map of church location.
I have seen your emworth church..very good!!
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PostSubject: Re: Mr & Mrs Church Bench   Mr & Mrs Church Bench Icon_minitimeSun Mar 04, 2007 2:00 pm

stuart thanks for the 'virtual photographer' tip. its really good as i always use the 'lazy' way of converting to black and white because i didnt know any different. the trouble is, with so many settings, i can stare at a picture for so long and have trouble actually seeing if i have improved my piccy or made it worse!!
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PostSubject: Re: Mr & Mrs Church Bench   Mr & Mrs Church Bench Icon_minitimeSun Mar 04, 2007 2:47 pm

lol, when I find that happening, I convert three or four layers with what I think might work, then I swap between 'em to see what I like most...

Cheers,
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PostSubject: Re: Mr & Mrs Church Bench   Mr & Mrs Church Bench Icon_minitimeSun Mar 04, 2007 2:49 pm

also, i find going back to them later with 'fresh' eyes helps
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